Comments on: Racism Against Koreans in Kpop fandom

By: sjff

sjff — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:04:47 +0000

@mango: Well, what happened to Paris’s boobs, then? I’m not saying that she’s plastic, but I really want to know how her boobs doubled their sizes just out of nowhere. And it is generally considered not acceptable to say that all or most New Yorkers are plastic, so why should it be different for the people of Seoul? And my question is, even if all Koreans were plastic (which they are not), why should we even care? They’re minding their own business, I think we should as well.

Okay, why do people keep commenting here about how they think normal Koreans are plastic and whatnot. Apparently, I wrote about those so-called “Kpop fans” calling every celebrity in the Korean entertainment industry plastic. Y’all seriously, read the post!

By: mango

mango — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:34:40 +0000

^ Poster above is wrong…Paris Hilton hasn’t had plastic surgery. If so she wouldn’t have the nose or jaw that she does…. Pamela Anderson definitely did… Ashlee Simpson did…um… No more come to mind.
But any country where there’s a city with a high population, and the notion when living there is to be aesthetically pleasing, you’re going to find a lot of plastic surgery. Thus, a lot of people who have had plastic surgery within Seoul, L.A., Las Vegas, etc.
Now does that mean people in these cities are automatically all plastic? Why of course not. But its hard to not be skeptical whether or not they’re fake or real.

By: sjff

sjff — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:55:11 +0000

@naa: Seems like you live in a country where most people are very open-minded! Which country do you live in?:)
Haha, yeah, same here. To be honest, I couldn’t care less what people decide to do with their own faces. Hey, it’s none of my business.

@Jane: Way to generalize a whole ethnic group based on one person. I’m truly sorry that the Korean nurse was being nasty to your mother and I also think that her comeback was hilarious. Nevertheless, that does not prove your point that all Koreans have self-esteem issues. I’ve lived in Korea and I visit there every year or so, and I don’t think Korean women wear a lot of makeup in general. I did see some with 5 lbs of makeup caked on their faces, but there were also many whom were fresh-faced and natural. And I think it’s a little bit judgemental to say that all women who wear a lot of makeup have low self-esteem. Do all “emo” and “scene” kids have self-esteem issues? Apparently not. Korea is not the country with the highest rate of plastic surgery, by the way. I’m against any form of nationalism by the way, but I don’t believe that Korea is the only country where nationalism prevails. I am not trying to offend the Chinese, but with books such as “China’s Not Happy” selling out like crazy, I would say that nationalism is growing in China as well. Same goes for Japan.

And last of all, I don’t understand where your coming from? I wrote this to prove that it is racist for Kpop fans to say that all Korean celebrities are plastic when they’re not, just based on the fact that they are Korean. Then you commented on here about the supposed self-esteem issues you think all Koreans have. I don’t see the correlation between the two.

By: Jane

Jane — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:36:52 +0000

Truly out of all the East Asians (CJK), Koreans seem to be the most preoccupied with appearances which truly reflects them having self-esteem issues. “Plastic” stereotyping is not without merit when you been around them long enough.

In fact, here’s an example just experienced by my mom a couple of weeks ago. She was staying at this hospital where all her nurses were Caucasians or Filipinos, so when she went to the nurses station to ask about something and saw an Asian girl, she was very happy since my mom’s English is not that fluent. In all innocence and with no malice, she asked the nurse if she was Chinese, hoping she was. Now, mind you my mom ASKED, not assumed, so the forthcoming attitudes and responses she received from this Asian girl was a shock.
Firstn this said girl raises her name badge and said nastily, “does my name look Chinese to you”? (I’m not going to write the name, but actually yes it did). Then…NOW HERE’S THE REAL KICKER…she took her fingers and slanted her own already slanted slit eyes and asked even more nastily, “do my eyes look chinky to you”? : O
Wow! Needless to say, my mom was shocked, not only the fact that it would be highly unacceptable for any professional to pull that kind of act in such an environment but from a fellow East Asian?
What she related to my next just made me laugh though because my mom did take a good look at the nurse and flatly said, “yeah you do, you more than me!!!”, “you DO have eyes like THAT”!
The Korean girl had nothing to say to that because my mom’s eyes are actually her best features. Even though she’s older now, her eyes are still naturally big with NO epicanthal folds (certainly larger than most Korean’s), and now here’s this Asian girl trying make fun of a fellow Asian using the stereotypical slit-eyed, racist gesture that Caucasians often use when her own eyes really ARE like that. Apparently this Korean nurse hates to look at herself in the mirror? ROFLMAO.

You know if that is typical of the mindset of many Koreans, it just makes one wonder just how deep are their issues with self-esteem? Because for all the “Korea is NO.1″ attitudes (yeah believe me I’ve met many, grandmas and all), Korean’s inferiority complexes shows and shows strongly. Tons of applied make-up (seen so many in Seoul) and the reputation for having the most plastic surgery just re-inforces it. So yeah despite trying promote Korean might through Kdrama and Kpop, the insecurities scream loud and clear, especially noticeable to us Chinese. :/
Taking the example of that Korean nurse, talk about delusions and self-hate!

By: naa

naa — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:19:40 +0000

i live in a country where people who did plastic surgery is veeeery rare~
but we never judged people who did that, as same as we never judged michael jackson..

i ever read article about japan korean plastic stars,
but unfortunately, in the end, they mention that country with the biggest number of plastic surgery is USA..
they even held a tv program like SWAN..

i like super junior, especially kyuhyun..
and when i know he did eyelid job..
i think….. there’s no problem..
more handsome with those double eyelid.. hihihi