SUPER JUNIOR IS A GROUP OF 15 AWESOME,TALENTED GUYS.
FIFTEEN
NOT THIRTEEN
No, I’m so not an ELF. I’m not joining the fanclub of 14-year-old groupies who compare Super Junior to Nirvana. But so what? That doesn’t mean that I can’t like Super Junior. I like each and every one of the members, including Henry and Zhou Mi.
Don’t bash on me because I like them. I don’t care if you support ONLY 13. But I support those two members. And I wouldn’t mind at all if they join the main group. Japanese teens are okay with Morning Musume being a project group. Super Junior isn’t a project group, but even in permanent groups, new members join and old members leave. Just look at TRAX, Battle, Wonder Girls, and Kara. I don’t think Destinies or Camilias protested when Shin Kihyun and Kim Sunghee left the groups.
Okay,enough with my sermon here. But please,don’t bash on me just because I support those two members.
Reasons Why I Don’t Support Only 13
Now I don’t mind at all if you support Only 13. That’s just a matter of personal opinion. But don’t criticize me for supporting Henry and Zhoumi too.That just tells me that you’re an immature “fake fan”.If you are going to do so,just leave.Nobody is forcing you to read this article.
So I guess you’re a mature ELF.So allow me to test your maturity level.
Who’s a better dancer?Eunhyuk or Ciara?
Okay,so let’s go on.I don’t support Only 13 and I have reasons for that.
1.Super Junior will not become a project group.
So do you think because Henry and Zhoumi are added,that automatically turns Super Junior into a project group?
Well, SM had never said that. And even in permanent groups,new members join and old members leave. Just look at Kara, Battle,Wonder Girls, Koyotae, Jewelry and all those groups.
2.And what’s wrong with a project group?
Come on.You know the Johnny’s boys. You know Morning Musume. They are project groups. And Japanese audiences are fine with that. Project groups are beneficial to both the singers and the fans. Being in a project group prepares the singer for their future career as an actor, a model, a solo singer, whatever. And for the fans, you get to meet new talented singers and who knows, people might like the new members than old ones.
3.Henry and Zhoumi have special talents.Come on.
Well, aren’t they talented? Out of the 13 members,only 3 members(KRY) are considered good singers. And I mean, Zhoumi’s an awesome singer. Go on to Youtube and watch an “At Least I Still Have You” live performance. He has a very strong voice and his falsetto is just purely amazing.And he has a very beautiful vocal tone. And Henry’s good too. Can anyone in Super Junior dance and play violin at the same time? Can any one of them speak 5 languages?
4. I’m fed up with Only 13-ers.
I’m okay with your opinion, but I disagree with your outrageous acts. Photoshopping SJM pictures, illegally downloading SJM songs so that the album sales would go down, chanting Only 13 in Henry’s face, spreading crude rumors, bashing on Ryeowook, calling us SJM supports immature noobs? Honey, I’ve liked Super Junior since the Twins Era. I’ve liked some of the members when they were only SM trainees. You could say that I’m kind of an old fan. To be honest, however, I’m fed up with your disgusting acts and I think you should stop calling the two members racist names.
It doesn’t matter if you support Only 13. I support all 15 members and that’s what it matters. If you want to disagree with me, you better have a logical reason.
i totally agree! HENRY and ZHOUMI!!! Saranghaeyo!!!
Comment by sujulover4ever — August 10, 2008 @ 4:55 am
@sujulover4ever:yay!!at least there’s one person who supports all 15 of them!
haha=)i dunno why ppl hate on them.maybe they’re racist?
Comment by sjff — August 10, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
yeah!! also love HENZHOU so much… ^^
if u were live in Korea, just protest to SJ oppa for their statement. what the crap?
I LOVE SUJU 15!!! SUPER JUNIOR IS 15 AND SJM IS 7 NOT 5!!!
Comment by thesnowangel — August 15, 2008 @ 7:02 am
@thesnowangel:yes!!!!but if i protested against suju,then some of the Only-13 supporting Elves might..well..kill me=P And besides,I live in America and my parents wouldn’t buy me plane tickets(they’d spent all their money on my back-to-school stuffs=P).but if i could,then i would just get a banner or something and sit in front of SM Enter. and protest!haha just kidding
and yes Super Junior is 15,not 13.that only 13 thing is old.waaaay out of date.
Comment by sjff — August 17, 2008 @ 2:04 am
What’s w/ the word “only” followed by their number anyway? abolish the word “only” & the # since these became the core partitions of fans – w/c was and still is sad … these also limit the suju itself. Why can’t it be just suju w/o an affix number or word? this sounds like an invitation to a (/an old) debate hahaha… So, I rest my case… SUJU it is (no word “only” and affix #)… cuz for me, SUJU is the T+KRY+M+H++++++ whatever subs they plan to have…. so, SUJU it is… :) Will not answer any question/s or comments regarding this… for i don’t see a point since I rest my case already – SUJU it is … hahaha
Comment by morepower2honesty — October 1, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
@morepower2honesty:i was only trying to mimic and make fun of those hardcore Only 13-ers,chill.And I agree with you.Why can’t they just accept new members?I don’t care if Super Junior becomes a group of 14,15,or ever 100.
Comment by sjff — October 1, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
sjff… :D yeah i know… btw, instead of u being one of the elf- “elf-everlasting friends” … sjff stands for “sujuforeverfriends? or suju&as follows” (ff: following) – just being random… anyways, nice short articles – will visit again sometime… yup, chill indeed…
Comment by morepower2honesty — October 5, 2008 @ 9:13 pm
@morepower2honesty:Hey I’m not an ELf.I’m so not joining that group of 13-year-old Suju groupies,nope.=PI don’t know what SJFF stands for either.Lol.I just came up with a random name.Thanks anyway.
Comment by sjff — October 7, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
I agree with you but somehow I’m pretty fine with the members now and I think adding more members is not really practical (for the die-hard fans of the only 13, for marketing reasong, for managing sched and stuff). But who knows right? Suju is suju.
Comment by insheol — November 5, 2008 @ 3:04 am
@insheol:yup.you’re right.
I think Elves should just let them join the group instead of bashing on them.They’re already in that subgroup.Why not let them join the original one?
Comment by sjff — November 8, 2008 @ 8:27 am
hi again …
do u know when is super junior going to releae their album ….
Comment by racheL_kyungjin — December 10, 2008 @ 10:15 pm
@racheL_kyungjin: Some months later, I heard. Probably in spring or summer next year, at the most.
Comment by sjff — December 11, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
suju oppa!!! saranghaeyo guys…!!!
aja-aja…!
>_<
Comment by nurul choikang — January 12, 2009 @ 9:42 pm
@nurul choikang: You know some Korean words huh?
Comment by sjff — January 13, 2009 @ 10:51 am
i like both of them. especially ZHOUMI!
he is cute
Comment by bucha — January 16, 2009 @ 2:07 am
@bucha: He seriously IS. Haha
Comment by sjff — January 17, 2009 @ 3:24 pm
hi.
im a big fan of suju.
its not that i don’t like suju accepts new member.
thay also have weakness,nobody can deny it.
they can’t play violin as well as henry.
but they have each other to complete one another.
henry and zhoumi are talented.
they can be single singer and have their own fans.
besides,can they adapt with the original suju?
they really look cute when they are 13.
suju doesn’t need too many members.
u can’t say their die hard fans are immature.
they just wanna them to be 13.
that’s all.
but u are so good to support henry and zhoumi.good job and very nice of u.
=)
Comment by caramel@eunhae — January 25, 2009 @ 7:48 pm
@caramel@eunhae: So I guess it’s like ‘hey, we already have 13, so why do we need other members?’ Hey, I support your view on Only 13, but I think it’d be better for them to stay in the group. Especially for SJM. I mean, HK himself can’t take care of 4 other fobby Korean guys who aren’t that fluent in Chinese (I guess they’re considered FOBs over there haha)! I’m not saying that all of their die hard fans are immature. Some of them are, in fact, extremely immature. Spreading false rumors, chanting “Henry sucks! We don’t need Henry! Only 13!” in his face while he’s trying his best to play the violin for Suju… wow that’s very mature!
Hey, I’m not criticizing your view on Only 13. I’m just saying, so don’t take it offensive. Thanks for visiting!=]
Comment by sjff — January 27, 2009 @ 6:27 pm
I love super junior 13..
but it doesnt mean i hate Henry and Zhoumi
in fact i like their talents..
but i guess.. I t’s just like not love mianhe…
for me they should stay in sjm.. lol
thats my opinon dun bash me either lol
Comment by joann19sj — February 1, 2009 @ 6:56 am
@joann19sj: I don’t bash random people, only those who are effing rude to me lol. I don’t know. I guess some people can’t just accept them. It’s not bad or anything. Everyone can have their own opinions. “Just like not love,” I guess.
Well, it’s not like we’re really “loving” the celebrities, right? We don’t really know them!
Comment by sjff — February 3, 2009 @ 7:45 am
Uhm it kinda just proves that it takes 15 guys for people to fall in love with the group. Same goes to SNSD. I mean come on, Big Bang, SS501, FT Island and SHINee are just as popular but it doesnt take them 9-15 people for fans to fall in love with them..
Comment by jamielabbuhongki — March 24, 2009 @ 10:04 pm
@jamielabbuhong: Yeah, just like Green Day is the greatest punk band in our history because there are only 3 people in the band(sarcasm).
Comment by sjff — March 28, 2009 @ 9:47 am
I like you, you’ve got a point about the whole stuff. I’m not an E.L.F. as well. I would feel like supporting Only13 by joining. Sure some people have a mature look on Only13 but I’ve met only a few of them.
I wouldn’t mind Henry and Zhou Mi joining and hey, we already know them and they aren’t so new to us. I reallly hate that people say you’re not a real SuJu Fan because you don’t join E.L.F. o_O
Super Junior is not only the main group but M,T,H and K.R.Y. which includes Henry and Zhou Mi.
I ‘loved’ Henry from the first time he featured Don’t Don and his dancing and violin skills are…amazing. He brings violin back to life. I really like his raps in Marry U and Don’t Don on SuJuM album since I never thought someone could do the Don’t Don raps better than Kibum. Henry totally convinced me of him.
Zhou Mi is such a genius, he did so many things before SuJu and his work for SuJuM should be more regarded. The texts of the album wouldn’t be so great if there hadn’t be Zhou Mi. His voice is the killer, he even stands Kyuhyun and Ryeowook out sometimes. The rest of the time he’s equal to them.
This stupid Only13 stuff…you can go as well and open an ALL15 group which would limit SuJu again into a number. SuJu is a feeling towards me, not a number on the paper. So yes, let Henry and Zhou Mi join them and there are still some good new people at SM that are waiting for a chance.
People still like Sugarbabes, right? So why would you stop loving SuJu when e.g. Kangin or Kibum were leaving? You would still support the ones who left for another future if you really like them.
And besides someday SuJu is going to seperate as group as well. That doesn’t mean they will stop being this familiar with everybody but we need to face that they can’t go on forever. Still they won’t seperate today or in the next time and I’m happy about it.
Comment by keirafan — May 25, 2009 @ 11:17 am
@keirafan: You’ve got a point. You’re probably one of the some 10 Suju fans who can speak intelligently about this issue.
Comment by sjff — May 27, 2009 @ 12:32 pm
@ sjff Thanks for the compliment. I can only return it.
Comment by keirafan — May 28, 2009 @ 12:54 pm
@ Keirafan & sjff: really agree with you two. I was really enthused when I saw that you apparently support ALL15. There are so many fans who are afraid to say official that say support Henry and Zhou Mi.
I really hate that girls who say that you are not a SuJu fan if you don´t join E.L.F. o_O when I read that i thought: WTFH? Stupid or something?!
If I would call myself an E.L.F. I really had to think that I must support only 13 but I don´t. I never saw a E.L.F. who support ALL15…everywhere when I told some E.L.F.s how I think about that stuff they totaly start to get angry and really unfriendly….-.-* (not that I care about what they think!) but when they ask for our opinion and I say that I would like Henry and Zhou Mi join Super Junior that f****** E.L.F.s said that you are stupid and some other things….Keirafan knows what I mean….I really can´t understand that kind of fans who ask for you opinion and if you´ve got an opinion they don´t like they want to convince you that your opinion is wrong…but if you say then that you don´t agree with them they really get pissed and start to dis you….it´s really funny and I often really laughed my ass off when I read such stupid argumentations…cause it´s not rare that I clash with some E.L.F.s….I really hate them….so thats my opinion and if you want to say something against it…do…but…I don´t care….xDDD (but I think that this would not happen cause I know how Keirafan think about this stuff…;) )
Comment by Niritaya — June 6, 2009 @ 8:21 am
yay…Niritaya *hugs* my friend!!!
anyway
I WANT Henry and Zhou Mi to join.
LET.THEM.JOIN.
I will fight for them, no matter what how many times some E.L.F. bash on me, no matter how stupid and immature and hurtfull their words are, no matter if the whole E.L.F. community hates me! Henry and Zhou Mi fighting!
Comment by xKeirafanx — June 6, 2009 @ 9:46 am
With the whole ONLY13 thing, I think the Elves went too far. I mean, they’re their FANCLUB. They should be supporting the members, not dictating what they do. E.L.F is abusing it’s power and prestige and has become corrupt. Supporting members and cheering them on is what a fanclub does, not making girls commit suicide or bashing future members.
Comment by l.m.l — June 10, 2009 @ 1:53 pm
@Niritaya: Nobody with a functioning brain would want to join the terrorist clan of desparate 14-year-olds. People can not join that terrorist clan and still be SJ fans, but those girls just don’t grasp the concept.
ALL15 forever! Those crazy E.L.F.s(I have to call them “E.L.F.s” because one time I called them Elves for punctuation’s sake and they almost bombed my house) don’t have any logical reason to support Only13 other than the fact that they’re racist and don’t want any more non-Koreans to join the group. Sad:S
Comment by sjff — June 10, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
@ sjff waaaaaaaaa HAHAHAHAHA you just outtalked yourself:
‘terrorist clan of desparate 14-year-olds’ xDDDD
OMG…HOW RIGHT YOU ARE!!!!!
because without knowing anything about E.L.F. and the (go back to hell and never come back) Only13 thing my first impression of them was that they are “a discriminating,immature,racist groupie association with the worlds most scary stalker qualities”
yes, that’s what I thought (aks Niritaya,she thought eyactly the same).But your statement expresses it in a better and shorter way xDDD
Really, if there’s a thing that can make me and Niritaya discuss for days then it’s Only13 and immature E.L.F.s!Even our (SuJu avoiding) friends listen to us when we talk about it and it’s so stuck to their brains one of them already called the antagonists in one of his little stories E.L.F.!!!! How I laugh my ass of when he told us.
Comment by xKeirafanx — June 11, 2009 @ 1:48 pm
@l.m.l: I’m sure that there are a few Elves out there who doesn’t act like the majority(notice that I said “few”), but yeah, they shouldn’t be abusing their powers and be total dictators. I understand that they love SJ and all, but being racist to non-Korean members or like you said, making girls commit suicide is not a good way to support them.
Comment by sjff — June 13, 2009 @ 10:10 am
@xKeirafanx: Hahaha!XD What the ELFs don’t realize is that more people will turn against them every time they act immature. Why can’t they be like other fanclubs and stop harassing other people? Cassiopeia used to act like that, but they grew out of it, even though they recently faked a Guinness Record rumor*cough cough*(yeah I checked the book).
Comment by sjff — June 13, 2009 @ 10:13 am
@ sjff: to know that Cassiopeia grew out of it is a little bit calming
let’s do it in the Choi Siwon manner…let’s pray that E.L.F. are going to grow out of Only13…the sooner the better for Mochi and Mimi
and the better for their own maturity xDDDDDDD
Comment by xKeirafanx — June 15, 2009 @ 10:08 am
@xKeirafanx: HAHAHAXD Siwon HAHAHA!!! Alright, let’s pray for the ELFsXD
Y’all don’t hate on Mochi and ZM since we ALL15-ers are praying for y’all!!!XD
Comment by sjff — June 16, 2009 @ 3:42 pm
If you create a Facebook I’ll totally join you.
Comment by Nataly — June 19, 2009 @ 4:12 pm
@ sjff: Some how words like God, church and pray don’t work anymore without a connection to Siwon xDD
can’t the devil come and take ‘Immature13′ back to hell?
Comment by xKeirafanx — June 20, 2009 @ 8:19 am
@Nataly: Ehh..okiee:)
Comment by sjff — June 20, 2009 @ 10:06 am
@xKeirafanx: I don’t think the devil would even want to touch those Only 13-ers.:)
Comment by sjff — June 20, 2009 @ 2:38 pm
@ sjff: I think so too. But what about the Triards? Or the Mafia?
Comment by xKeirafanx — June 28, 2009 @ 3:37 pm
@xKeirafanx: Oooh:) They’d better watch out!:)
Comment by sjff — June 29, 2009 @ 7:51 am
@ sjff: yes especially for the Triads…they are chinese…they hate their own people being bullied ^_~
Comment by xKeirafanx — June 30, 2009 @ 9:08 am
@xKeirafanx: Haha:) Well, if the Koreans are going to pull nationalism on Henry and Zhou Mi, then we can get the Triads to be racist back!!!:) Hahahahaha
Comment by sjff — June 30, 2009 @ 4:49 pm
hey people…I was on the ELF site and I found this entry:
http://sapphirepearls.com/2009/07/21/no-more-we-will-protect-13-its-we-will-protect-sj/
it’s about Teukie saying the ELF should stop singing “We will protect 13 members” but now to sing “We will protect Super Junior”
ALL15 supporters…I feel like this is a first breakthrough!!!
sjff let’s celebrate this…it made my day reading this…I love these guys so much for saying it ;D
Comment by xKeirafanx — July 22, 2009 @ 9:52 am
@xKeirafanx: That’s amazing!!:D Teuki finally gets the concept of market economy, let’s celebrate!:) jk
I still have some doubts, since Leeteuk was one of the members who strongly supported Only13. Why is he changing his mind now, after all that happened at Chun-Il Party?
And what’s up with all these former Only 13ers who’s now starting to like Henry and Zhou Mi just because of something Leeteuk said? Do they not have their own opinions on this issue? This proves that they were mere blind followers from the start, when some members like Leeteuk and Kangin started supporting Only13.
Nevertheless, I’m very very happy to hear that Leeteuk stood up for Henry and Zhoumi and got the Only 13ers to shut up!!!:D HAHA!!! ALL15 FOREVERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
Comment by sjff — July 22, 2009 @ 10:40 am
@ sjff: Well it’s just another proof how stupid and brainless Immature13ers are.
So Mr. Leader says do this, they will, so if Mr. Leader says that, they’ll do.
Uh-hu!
Mr.Leader says buy albums, they do. Mr. Leader says come to our concerts, they do. Mr.Leader says stop singing chants against Henry and Zhou Mi, they do. Mr.Leader says jump off a bridge, they do. WAIT! Where is the fault? Wait, wait, wait, I’ll find it.
Ah, yes HERE. “Mr. Leader says stop singing chants against Henry and Zhou Mi, they do.” That must be wrong.
Oh come on Only13er…isn’t it time to stop at least bashing on these two nice guys who did nothing to you than being put into a subgroup with SuJu Members by Lee Soomans will?
Would you like to be treated like that when you helped SuJu becoming famous in the States/Germany/Brazil/China/Australia/China/South Africa/Egypt/Mexico/…? Would you like being bullied everytime in every place for helping a group to become famous by there own fans? Wouldn’t you be fed up quickly?
Let me tell you radical Only13ers this thing…Henry and Zhou Mi are braver, kinder,stronger,frimer,more fair-minded,more thick-skinned andless sensitive then you all! To tell the truth neither of you ever thought about what you do to Henry and Zhou Mi when you bully them constantly in public and privat nor do you know how this feels…you don’t want to know that, I tell you. You don’t want to know! So do something new to you: USE.YOUR.BRAIN. Think once in your lifetime before you do something like that to people you don’t even know!
Sorry sjff…just had some discussion with an Immature13/Only13 ELF and she made my freaking out with her senseless arguments, her bashing on me, her stereotyping on everything (you know…me the little Nazi brat that has no right to talk about the issue that people make people suffer), her attitude, her way of convincing me and her arrogance and ignorance that made it simply IMPOSSIBLE to at least let me have my opinion.
And like I just had that brainless and sennseless dicussion I wanted to make it clear to Immature13/Only13ers what they do.
I just hate bullying…I really do. It makes me go up the walls when I hear, read or see it. Made me fail in an english exam, because we had a text from the side of a girl that bullies someone. I refused to do that exam. I simply can’t write out of the sight of such an ugly thinking person…I can’t.
Comment by xKeirafanx — August 10, 2009 @ 7:43 am
Why do I feel like no one dares to post something after my outburst?
Comment by xKeirafanx — August 22, 2009 @ 8:07 am
@xKeirafanx: Because they have nothing to say and know that you’re right.
Comment by sjff — August 22, 2009 @ 3:54 pm
@ sjff: thank you for supporting my opinion
Comment by xKeirafanx — August 27, 2009 @ 11:21 am
*supporting too* :D:D:D yeah…a little late but…I think I told everywhere else what I´m thinking about this Only13 shit….didn´t I? I think so…yeah…a lot discussions with these immature13ers….-.-* god, I really hate them…
but Hey! I was freaking out when I read this statement from Teukie….Keirafan sat next to me at that moment….we both were screaming…and I think her parents thought we got completly crazy…xDDD but…WOA!!! BREAKTHROUGH!!! I was and am still so happy. i´m really proud of Teukie and also of Heechul cause he was really >screaming< "Protect Super Junior!!!!!!!" (otherwise I will kill you all….). But did you get that the E.L.F. didn´t understand what SuJu wanted to tell them first, sjff?? say keep saying "we will protect 13 memebers" until Heechul screamed…(I saw a vid on youtube…I think it was like I said…)
showed how stupid these Only13er are….-.-* i really hope life will going to get better for Mochi and Mimi. they really deserve it…they are working so hard!
so…enough now…^.^
Comment by Niritaya — September 2, 2009 @ 11:10 am
@Niritaya: Whoa, so you and Keirafan actually know each other in real life? That’s pretty awesome!
Haha, Heechul screamed at them? That’s so funny. xD I didn’t know that they were that dense!
Comment by sjff — September 3, 2009 @ 2:08 pm
@ sjff:same town, same school, same class for a year, same english class on higher level this year, same music taste, same SuJu crazyness…Niritaya and me xDDD
No really, we are best friends since 4 years and with my bike it’s only 15 minutes away from her. She practically lives with me. During the holidays, during the weekends, on free days, … we’re like a married couple and my parents see her as her third daughter anyway.
Without her, I wouldn’t love LP as much as I do now…and if she hadn’t discovered a picture of Siwon and fall for him, we wouldn’t be here and say we love SuJu 15 members.
We share the same sight on “Immature13″ and the only K-Pop band that only one of us listens to is Big Bang (I love GD and Daesung SO much). We’re quite similar in taste and opinions though we’re diferrent in showing emotions. She’s quite distant to strangers while I’m not ^O^ you know that already I think…
I found your blog, told her about it and she loved it….so here we are…your loyal european readers xDDDD
Comment by xKeirafanx — September 4, 2009 @ 4:51 am
Yay! ^.^ but sjff I thought you know that already cause if i´d know you did not i had told you…xD but yeah…keirafan and me…everybody in school thinks that we date each other…it´s so funny! and just because we are always hanging out together…xDD is it so strange to hug you´re best friend? kiss her on the cheek? I really don´t understand them…
so…Keirafan is the best friend I ever had!! ^.^
yeah…back to heechul…yes I think it was kind like screaming…he was definetly repeating “Protect Super Junior!” louder then the first time…and yes these immature13 bi***es didn´t get it first!! I was like WTFH?!?! how stupid are you?!?! and the funniest thing is we found this speech on the E.L.F. fanpage…and then we read the comments below and realised that after this speech of SuJu every ALL15er came out of his little dark hole, where he was hiding from these evil, evil E.L.F. (because these immature were beating them bacause of his/her opinion) and said that they always supported Henry and Zhou Mi…yeah…now…-.-* a little bit late don´t you think? sorry but I really hate people who are afraid to say what they were thinking…
Comment by Niritaya — September 4, 2009 @ 7:19 am
@ Niritaya: we should definetely stop joking around that we’re going to marry when you become 18 xDDD
Comment by xKeirafanx — September 5, 2009 @ 1:07 pm
@Niritaya: Well, over here we don’t kiss our girl friends:) But I guess it’s acceptable in Germany? You know, Americans are so sensitive when it comes to same-sex things that it annoys me! The word “gay” over here is sometimes even used as a slur. I don’t like that.
I think those people are stupid! Oh well, I’ve always supported All15 and I’ve always been bashed for it. What’s weird is that those girls who used to support Only 13 before Teuki spoke up for it, now supports all 15 of them. What the hell, do they not have an opinion of their own.:( I’m thankful that I have a functioning brain and that I’m able to think on my own.
@xKeirafanx: Aw!!!:)That is so cool! So you guys are like really close friends in real life? Wow, that’s amazing!!! Now I know for fact that you two will be screaming the hardest when SJ comes to perform @ Berlin:)
And yeah, you’re really outgoing!:)
Thanks for being such loyal readers!! I love you both!:)
Comment by sjff — September 5, 2009 @ 3:55 pm
@sjff: its just like in france I think….xD you kiss her on the cheek for welcome her or something. we just did this for prank the people…xDD it´s kind of funny how they react to this…xDD yeah I know i´m evil….muahahahaha…yeah…to call someone “gay” is something i really hate. i really could freak out because of that.
With this ALL15 thing…Keirafan and I know SuJu just as 15 people…we are fans since just march and zhou mi and henry were already there…so we thought…”hey..they´re cool we should support them” cause we didn´t undertand this only13 shit. we could not understand why these immatures could hate these great men. so…we are ALL15 supporters from the beginning too…xD ( i´m not sure if I wrote this understandable…sorry if didn´t…;))
@my best friend keirafan:why should we? untill now nobody believes us…i think we should go on joking…cause now, when everybody believe we are really dating we should go along….xDDD you know…i love pranking people…xDD
Comment by Niritaya — September 6, 2009 @ 3:49 am
@ Niritaya: sometimes I think you are just the perfect match for your beloved bullying king…with you favor for pranking people
Comment by xKeirafanx — September 7, 2009 @ 6:55 am
you know…I found pictures for the new SJ-M album and Henry and Zhou Mi are SO smoking hot, I’m asking myself again how someone can not fall in love with them
Comment by xKeirafanx — September 12, 2009 @ 2:38 am
@xKeirafanx: Really? Do you have the link?
Comment by sjff — September 14, 2009 @ 12:14 pm
I got them out of several communities,but if you don’t mind clicking several times ;)
Kyuhyun: http://img12.imageshack.us/i/27ysgty.jpg/
Siwon: http://img11.imageshack.us/i/jjqqsp.jpg/
Hangeng: http://img4.imageshack.us/i/sjm5.jpg/
Donghae: http://img12.imageshack.us/i/sjm6.jpg/
Ryeowook: http://img147.imageshack.us/i/sjm10.jpg/
Zhou Mi: http://img5.imageshack.us/i/sjm7.jpg/
Henry (don’t blame me for brain freeze…I freaking drooled over him): http://img12.imageshack.us/i/sjm9.jpg/
2 Parings& 1 Trio:
http://img225.imageshack.us/i/sjm1x.jpg/
http://img4.imageshack.us/i/sjm3p.jpg/
http://img406.imageshack.us/i/sjm2.jpg/
I hope this is enough and you don’t have it either ;)
Sorry for bothering you drooling over Henry, but I couldn’t keep myself from it.You should check the mv Super Girl if you hadn’t yet ;) Henry has a little solo dancing part and I freaked out when I saw it
Comment by xKeirafanx — September 14, 2009 @ 1:46 pm
@xKeirafanx: I didn’t even understand the lyrics to Super Girl but I instantly fell in love with it. Henry looked so hot in the music video!!! I loved that Hangeng-Jessica pairing; they kinda make a pretty cute couple:) I still miss Henry’s violin solo but I guess violin just doesn’t go with the techno-ish song.
Thanks for the links!:) Love it.
Comment by sjff — September 19, 2009 @ 5:42 pm
^^ no problem…just sharing between HR and ZM supporters ;)
Comment by xKeirafanx — September 20, 2009 @ 7:05 am
lol^^ yeah…the first pics you got from the “new” henry were from me keirafan…;) no…i´m not proud of myself…xDD
okay…uhm…sjff the lyrics aren´t difficult…i read them but i think they don´t fit to the mv…not really…but i totally love~~~~ this song!!! Kyuhyun and Zhou Mi are sooo damn hot!!!! My brain said good bye to me when i saw the mv…xD
Comment by Niritaya — September 20, 2009 @ 10:36 am
@ Niritaya: doesn’t your brain say goodbye when you only SEE Kyuhyun…?
Comment by xKeirafanx — September 22, 2009 @ 9:16 am
@xKeirafanx: MY brain blows off when I only SEE Sungmin
Comment by sjff — September 22, 2009 @ 2:38 pm
@ sjff: I’m in tripple trouble…seeing Kibum OR Yesung OR Henry…my brain is gone for a long time then
btw…did you see those?
Kibum—>http://img3.myimg.de/sponsork3ba87.jpg
Henry—>http://img3.myimg.de/1414704.jpg
Comment by xKeirafanx — September 24, 2009 @ 1:30 pm
no my brain say already goodbye when i´m THINKING of Kyu…lol..must be because of one point….i´m really afraid….>___< this is not normal anymore…!!
Comment by Niritaya — September 25, 2009 @ 9:44 am
so dead this post T^T
Have you heard?
Donghae is starring in the mv for Zhang Li Yins new single? Teaser is already out.
Getting even better, Henry will be starring in the mv of another song (“Love me” effing fitting title) AND he will rap in it. Now that’s some good news.
Comment by xKeirafanx — October 18, 2009 @ 8:05 am
lol i just got into an argument with an only13er (though she said she love zhoumi & henry too, but seems like she opposed to them joining the 13 main sj). my exact words are ‘Actually, i dont mind if people support only13 or 15, everyone’s entitled to their opinions. i can understand people who opposed to it cuz they think 13 is a little too many already in one group & if they think that with the addition of new members, the original members will quit. but there are those people who hate zhoumi & henry JUST BECAUSE. ‘
it’s good that she support zhoumi & henry too, but obviously she didn’t understand my words clearly when i said i dont understand ‘people who hate zhoumi & henry JUST BECAUSE.’ & she’s all pissed cuz i said i dont think of only13/only5 supporters as my family & that i already have my own family. then she got into a speech on how only13ers didn’t actually hate zm & henry, the one they truly hate is SM & if i’m a true fan i’ll know exactly what’s happening & it looks to her that i know nothing. AND she also said that according to ME, ‘SJ is separated & now you think of ELF as a separate family, too’. PFFFT. since when did supporting all 15 means i think SJ is separated? and please, im a suju fan since 2006, i’ve heard those lame ‘we dont hate zhoumi&henry, we hate SM’ speech a gazillionth time. as for the ‘family’ thing, i mean i already have my BIOLOGICAL family. LMFAO. hm i think it’s great ELFs are all like ‘all for one, and one for all’. unity & all that. but really, stay in touch with reality – there are like a few thousands ELFs from all over the world. can you possibly say you knew EACH & EVERY ONE OF THEM personally & think of them as your REAL friends & family? i myself know lots of ELFs. but mostly from the cyberworld. meaning i only met (most of) them ONLINE. there are nice ELFs & there are douche bags ELFs, albeit they’re only13 supporters or not, cuz there are all15 supporters who are not nice too. cuz hey, we are all just human. nevertheless, im sure she didnt even know personally those ‘family’ she backed up & yet she got her panties in a bunch when i said only13ers aren’t my family. and for the record, i don’t hate only13ers. one of my closest friend (my REAL friend, not someone i met online) sadly is an only13er. but to me it’s simple, if people (ELFs or not ELFs, only13ers or not only13ers & all15ers or not all15ers,thank you) are nice to me, i’m nice to them & if they’re bitchy to me…
one more thing, is it wrong if im a SuJu fan but i dont think of myself as an ELF? and not just because i dont join the official club, either. hurmm maybe i’m not a ‘true’ SJ fan after all?hahah~ im also huge fan of antic cafe, snsd, cinema bizarre, ftisland etc… so i should call myself a cafekko, a bizarre, a wonderful & a primadonna too? well, it’s cool if the fans & fanclubs of all these idols (& not just korean/asian idols) have their specific names, but to me even without these special names, if you’re a fan, then you’re a fan. fans CAN stay united even without special names. like, say, tokio hotel (lol ok sorry if there are some of u who thinks they’re lame but i used to be a diehard fan of them 2 years ago), their fans dont have a specific name, but i can truly see their unity (cuz i was one of the people who handled their fanclub for my country), just like ELFs from all over the world are united with each other cuz of their love for suju. it’s just bullshit when only13ers said ‘you’re not a ‘true’ ELF/’true’ SJ fan if you support henry & zhou mi joining the main 13 SJ’.
anyway, i think it’s cool that now more & more people are starting to accept mimi & mochi, even the only13 supporters.
Comment by dominoSH — October 24, 2009 @ 3:26 am
’so i should call myself a cafekko, a bizarre, a wonderful & a primadonna too?’ that should be a SONE, not a wonderful. *facepalm*
Comment by dominoSH — October 24, 2009 @ 3:47 am
@ dominoSH: *lol* I love the Wonder Girls.
Actually I don’t have problems with Only13ers IF they don’t bash on Henry, Mimi and my opinion.
I’m not a member of ELF either. Just because you are not in an official fanclub it doesn’t mean that you aren’t a fan. I call myself SuJu Fan, SHINee fan, Wonder Girls Fan, Linkin Park Fan,…fanclubs don’t really need names I think.
Lol, Tokio Hotel.I have a friend that was a big fan of them from the start (start like when the MV for “Durch den Monsum” came out here in Germany). I wasn’t really a fan of them, but I accept people liking them. As long as they let me not like them.
Comment by xKeirafanx — October 24, 2009 @ 9:17 am
@ xKeirafanx
yes my thoughts exactly too. i dont have anything against only13ers if they dont bash mimi & henry. & if they wanna bash, just dont bash them to me. apparently that girl overlooked my words & cant get through her thick head what i really meant by ‘i dont understand those who hate henry JUST BECAUSE’. heh u know they are people who said they hate henry & zhou mi not because they think the 2 guys are not talented, but cuz they’re UGLY? these people are the lamest & probably need to get their eyes checked.
oh yeah haha i love wonder girls too but somehow i mistaken the name of their fc with soshi’s fc xDD
AH you’re from germany? haha cool~! i envy germany cuz jrockers always go there. ;p
lol i dunno why i compared suju fans & th fans.. maybe cuz they’re alike in many ways. squealy & screamy & giggly 15 year old girls. lol actually that’ll be hypocritical. i have to admit i’ll be squealing & screaming & giggling too if i met any of my fav stars. but the difference is, im not 15 or 16 year old. im wayyy past my teenage years. sadly. lmao. oh yeah another similarity between ELFs & th fans, there are those hardcore fangirls who cant accept it when people said their idols are gay. as if that will get these stars to marry them if they backed them up.
ps- i can assure you that i wont convert you into tokio hotelism or kaulitzism. i myself dont really like them much now anyway.hahahhaha~
Comment by dominoSH — October 24, 2009 @ 1:58 pm
@ dominoSH: well, if someone is beautiful lies in the eyes of the one watching, but I wouldn’t say Henry and Zhou Mi are ugly (I just love Henrys cheeks and Zhou Mis smile too much)
oh yes, even in the small town I live in we have a lot j-music fans. Lucky thing is that we K-music and J-music people support each other. And we protect each other from those people saying we are nuts loving “gay Chinese”. People are so intolerant when it comes to adrogynity and other sexual orientation. A lebsian couple I know has a t-shirt with the quote “Hetereosexuality is not normal, it is only more spread.”
Yes, fangirls can be blind and dumb. It ends up as a problem when they discriminate others and abandon their education.
If I were to fall for any Tokio Hotel member (which I figure won’t happen) it would be the drummer. I have a weak spot for drummers (and actors and violinists)…anyway ^O^
Comment by xKeirafanx — October 25, 2009 @ 7:20 am
@xKeirafanx: I like the singer from Tokio Hotel way better:) Sorry, I just have a thing for androgynious guys..That was probably the most asexual thing that I’ve ever said haha:)
Comment by sjff — October 27, 2009 @ 3:32 pm
@ sjff: *lol* well…I love GD and he is very androgyn too
many people made fun of Bills androgynity and well that will always happen…fans don’t really care, they love him this way or another
*lol* I saw you needed to ‘explain’ asexuality again…I just don’t get what is so hard to understand about it…
I’m bisexual (figured it out for a little while now) and I get other questions…I get insultings too that I just can’t decide between men or women, bcause I only take what I can get (conclusion: I’m unattractive…yeah…). Whatever. Women can touch you emotional very deep, sometimes way deeper than men can. My statement, but you can’t help the idiots.
Comment by xKeirafanx — October 28, 2009 @ 8:58 am
@xKeirafanx: Haha, I don’t get why people are so uncomfortable with androgynes? I love androgynes:)
Tell me about it. What’s so confusing about asexuality? It’s just a sexual orientation. I’m not sexually attracted to anyone. I mean, does that sound confusing to you or what. And I gave the link to AVEN like 15 times already.
Aw you’re bisexual!:D I love bisexual people. Have a piece of cake(that’s just an asexual insider:P Just saying that you’re welcomed here:))
And I’m sure that you’re a lot prettier than you think. Most girls think they’re ugly when they are really not! I’ve never had a girlfriend, but I’m sure that it would be awesome. I want to be in a relationship with a girl, because I’ve only had boyfriends and I want to experiment with my biromantic side. There is this really cute girl in one of my classes, but she’s straight:(
Well, the ignorant people need to get educated. I used to be homophobic when I was younger, because I’ve been told that homosexuality was gross. Many thanks to my homophobic parents and minister. But then I learned the facts and now I’m all for gay rights. It makes me feel uncomfortable to hear homophobic comments, because there really is nothing unnatural or wrong about LGBT people.
Btw I hate girls who only like gay/bi guys because they think it’s hot of a gay/bi guy to make out with another gay/bi guy… Most of those girls hate on lesbian and bi girls. Now THAT’s parochial.
Comment by sjff — October 29, 2009 @ 7:41 pm
@ sjff: I love androgynes. f(x)’s Amber (that’s the tomboy one if you don’t know her)is just…well she has me swooning and drooling.My little fangirl crush.I can go crazy, just by looking (i am weird, give me Henry and I drool over him)
Beauty is a thing of attraction I think, but I had many boyfriends before and nobody ever complained. The girls weren’t complaining either. So that doesn’t give me a headache. Aw, yes, crushes on girls from your school…I know what you mean. Most of them are straight, I had a crush on one that has a boyfriend (and that boyfriend is quiet hot too *sigh* big dilemma). I had this small moment when classmates were talking about how digusting homosexuals are and came home telling my mom. She went of like a bomb and held the longst monolog about sexuality she ever gave me. She told me how many gay and lesbian people I already knew at that time and from that on…don’t see the problem about it at all.
Don’t know if I get you wrong or if you got me wrong…I meant that I don’t understand how people don’t understand your explanations. So, I don’t get why other people don’t get your point. Makes that sense?
Many girls love reading and watching yaoi or boys love, but their tolerance level is in fact so low it’s not worth speaking of it. I’ve met some of them. They can be annoying.
Comment by xKeirafanx — November 3, 2009 @ 10:02 am
@xKeirafanx: Oh Lord, Amber’s hot!:) I kind of want to look androgynious sometimes, but then I just can’t live without my heels and makeup. But as for now, I want to cut my hair like Christofer Drew Ingle’s, wear smoky makeup and skinny jeans, and look all rockerish. But then again, I have small bones, so I don’t think I’ll be able to pull it off.
There are far less lesbian/bi girls than gay/bi guys I believe, which sucks for us. I don’t know if it’s because of all the makeup, but there are more pretty girls than cute guys at my college. But the pretty ones with great personalities all have boyfriends. Haha, hot girls with hot boyfriends! Tell me about it. Not to be all bi-ish, but whenever I spot one of those gorgeous couples, I go “can I just have both?”
Your classmates talked about homosexuals as being disgusting?:/ So I guess homophobes exist everywhere. Seriously, what’s wrong with having an alternative sexual orientation? Love is love. Yesterday at my college, we were having a debate over gay marriage and I couldn’t believe how many people persisted that gays shouldn’t marry! I mean, I thought I was in California? Some of my classmates kept arguing that Christian fundamentalists whom are against gay marriage are just exercising their rights(freedom of religion)! I was like, I’ve got nothing against your religion, but get your church’s butt out of my rights. Since when was America a Christian country?
Okay, I seem really hyped up there, but I’m biromantic, and who knows if I’ll end up with a beautiful girl… I don’t want to move all the way across the continent to cold Massachusetts just to get married to someone I love.
Nothing against sexual fantasies, but wouldn’t that be annoying to gay/bi guys? I mean, it’s creepy when some random girls stalk you and demand you to make out with a hot guy over there just because you’re gay/bi. And most of those so-called “gay-loving” girls in fact are very homophobic toward gays whom are not exactly good-looking. I know some of those girls who always watch Japanese gay porns. I couldn’t believe my ears when they screamed “ew, disgusting, gays are supposed to be hot!” at an older gay couple at the park. I mean, really?
Comment by sjff — November 3, 2009 @ 2:29 pm
@ sjff: for me it would suck double, since I live in a small town, BUT we have a little cafe every first sunday that is opened especially for people with alternative orientations…and people from all over the region come…it’s great
The trouble of hot pairings is…well, there is only one out of 10 of the boys/girl that would have a threesome with another girl…and basically I’m not totally focused on sex, I’m romantic too and need romance. Only sex isn’t my thing. And one night stands are…boring. ‘Can’t I just have both?’ is what I’m asking myself many times. Being in love with two persons can work.
The really pretty girls generally have a boyfriend…it only sucks if those girls really are pretty inside too and you can’t have them or their man. I’ve seen many beauties, but only a few fitted with my critics. I like it when they have brain, but are friendly, tolerant and not false. I don’t need plastic girls or plastic boys.
What the hell has the freedom of religion to do with gay marriage? In the old testament this one idiot damned same sex love, but Jesus was tolerant about that point. And the new testament is the really important part to believe in, since well…it’s all about Jesus and the religion is called what again? Christianity? Gosh, I’ve never really read the bible, but thoses things you just HAVE to know.
Aw, yes. That’s one of those things why I hate fake tolerance. Not every hetero couple is hot, so why must it be different with homo couples? But yaoi and this stuff makes them think it. Sex and love are some things that don’t neccessarily have to be dependant with beauty or hotness. If those fangirls were as tolerant as they say, they would see it and not talk such nonesense. Since they are fake…they say it’s disgusting. Sometimes I wish I could force it into people’s mind what I learned about love and sexuality. The world would be a much peacefullier place…
Comment by xKeirafanx — November 4, 2009 @ 1:25 pm
@xKeirafanx: Haha, wanna know what’s even more annoying? Straight girls labelling themselves “bisexual” just so that guys will think they’re hot. Since when was bisexuality an annoying fad? Those girls are usually really homophobic too. I was flirting with this cute girl at the concert the other day, and those emo wannabe girls who just called themselves bisexual in front of guys started giving me dirty looks. I was like, what the fuck? And they called me a dyke for flirting with her. Nice. Only that I’m not a lesbian and I don’t look like a stereotypical “dyke.” For Christ’s sake, stop calling yourself bisexual or whatever if you’re homophobic!
*My sincere apologies if you were offended by the word “dyke.” I have nothing against lesbians and bisexual girls.
Haha, I don’t like sex to begin with, but a threesome sounds just…wow. I’m talking about threesomes as in group sex. I’m not judging people, I’m just saying my opinion. Haha:D Being biromantic or bisexual can be really confusing! Especially when you’re like a 50/50 type of person. I personally prefer guys over girls, so if I were given choice, I would probably go with the guy. I don’t know about you though… Do you prefer guys or girls, or are you just stuck in the middle?:D
Sucks that most girls that I find appealing are straight girls. :[
Comment by sjff — November 10, 2009 @ 2:15 pm
@sjff: oh God yes…those fake bisexual girls are…they are horrible. I’ve met many of them and well…after I was finished with them, they never came up with it again.Many boys love to flirt with me,because I actually love flirting a lot, but they mostly do, because they’ve put themselves up the task to turn me straight *lol* and when they let it slip too soon I do the contrary and find myself some female eyes candy xDDDD
I’m not offended by dyke…don’t worry ;)
You can call yourself lucky you can choose over one…but I can’t. I just can’t. Stuck in the middle. Sometimes I have swings, but in the end it’s just the middle again. Latest swing was more into girls, but ask me again next week and it can be the different way.
I so know what you mean…90% of the girls I like are straight…but at least I can look and enjoy…
Comment by xKeirafanx — November 12, 2009 @ 2:02 pm